Updated September 19, 2018
This article may not represent the opinion of VancityAsks.com but represents the opinion of the editor/writer:
There’s no such thing as a best church in Vancouver. When it comes to faith, it’s about family and it’s not a competition for the best or biggest church. While there is no such thing as the best church in Vancouver, there are many good churches in Vancouver and many choices available.
At VancityAsks.com we hope to help locals and tourists find the best of Vancouver. Since there isn’t such a thing as the best church in Vancouver, we’re going to share some things to consider for when looking for a local church along with five good churches for your consideration.
Perhaps, you’re new to the city and looking for a Vancouver church. Maybe you’re simply looking for a community to grow, we hope the following list can help you along. Enjoy reading.
If you’re non-religious, feel free to skip on to another article. If you’re looking however for a supportive community founded in Love, I hope you consider reading the list and stepping into one of these cathedrals (building, community centers, or theatre nowadays). It may be the missing piece you’re looking for to fill that emptiness or desire?
Note: The church is His body and I believe He cares about it. Shouldn’t you? It’s the longest living organization on earth that has planted schools, advocated for education, advanced science, and built/staffed hospitals. (Look at St. Paul’s if you need a local example) It cannot be under emphasized that if you’re a Christian, you should get connected and serving in a local church. I cannot think of a government or society group that has made as much an impact globally than the Church. I believe the local church is one of many ways that God uses to help humanity and add to society tangibly, an expression of His care and His love.
“And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.” – Matthew 28:18
If you want to experience the full power of God then be connected to a local church; it’s the dispensation that it comes through imho. Much like how the feeding of 5000, the people set in groups (organization), and the disciples (church) distributed the food. The miracle was from the Lord, but the disciples were used and order was present. Order as you will find is very important for progress. Order such as the usage of gifts through the church.
How to find a good church in Vancouver?
As I mentioned, there is no such thing as the best church in Vancouver. There are many good options for community and fellowship. Here are some things I look for when trying to find a church in Vancouver. It’s by no means a definitive list but what I believe are important points.
Christ Centered church: Look for a church that emphasizes on the finish work of Jesus Christ and the second person of the God-head. You don’t have Christianity without Christ. It’s about God’s love towards humanity that He sent His Son; it should not be only about our frailties or God’s judgement.
Biblically based: A church should be grounded in the Bible. While I believe there’s an importance to relevance in society, it should be in context of the Word. Church goers did not go to church to hear what reader digest said about modern culture – they already do that in the washroom.
Triune God-head: It’s been said that how people live their lives are based upon (1) their view of God (2) their view of themselves. It’s been emphasized throughout the Bible the concept of the triune God-head. I believe it’s an important point that a Vancouver church acknowledges the triune God as it affects your view of God and hence how you live your life; it’s also a reflection of being Biblically based. (“Elohim” is a plural word with references in the Bible using “Let us” still further saying “the Lord is one!”)
New Covenant: In my humble opinion, it’s important that the church emphasizes on the New Covenant or grace. All books of the Bible are important for the full counsel is necessary and every word of God is profitable for teaching, rebuking, and training in righteousness. Let’s show the world love and grace because we have first been recipients of this love and grace from Him.
Community: Finally, community cannot be understated. We all have a longing to belong; maybe this branches to our desire to achieve, and to succeed. If Christianity is about a relationship with God then you would know your horizontal relationships matter as well.
Unfortunately by virtue that we’re humans and we make mistakes (sometimes wilfully), some people have been hurt by the church community itself. This should not mean that you put yourself at a distance from community always but maybe find another community.
Now that I’ve underlined what has been considered when creating the list of churches in Vancouver, here are some good churches for you to consider visiting.
Five Good Vancouver Churches:
Broadway Pentecostal Church Vancouver: Broadway Church in Vancouver is a modern church under the Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada and shepherded by lead pastor Darin Latham (who was a former police officer in Toronto area and enjoys apologetics). Broadway Pentecostal plans their sermon series at the start of the year on different topics varying from money management to hung-ups; these effectively finding biblical answers to are life topics.
Broadway Pentecostal Church in Vancouver features a diversified international community comprising of many mature families (children in high school or universities) with elders and younger families. They don’t have a very active community group program at Broadway Pentecostal Church but feature other programs. Broadway Pentecostal church also runs various programs such as a day care and City Reach society (a separate non-profit association affiliated with Broadway Church) as well as contributing to the YVR airport Champlain program.
Since Broadway Pentecostal Church Vancouver is such an inter-generational church, they have elected to run three services with different styles of worship. The 9 AM service features the traditional worship service, the 11:15 AM service features a contemporary worship service and the 6 PM service features an emerging worship service (with loud music, and free food targeting young adults)
Address: 2700 E Broadway, Vancouver, BC V5M 1Y8
Willington Church Vancouver: Willington Church Vancouver is another Mennonite Brethren church just outside Vancouver in Burnaby by Metro-town area. It’s headed by pastor Mark Loewen and one of the largest church in the Vancouver area.
The community is once again very multicultural. The church also takes on various ministries for the betterment of their members and the city at large. The Willington Mennonite Brethern church has a strong emphasis on the gospel and prayer with open invitation for prayer on their website. Here’s their statement of faith:
I have not personally visited this church so don’t have much further information about it but I have had many friends who attend this church and enjoy the diversified community of people.
Address: 4812 Willingdon Ave, Burnaby, BC
Coastal Church Vancouver: Coastal Church is a non-denominational church in downtown Vancouver right in front of the Trump tower. The church’s lead pastor is Dave and Cheryl Coop. Coastal Church in Vancouver likes to ensure their sermons are relevant to modern living and the hub city of Vancouver (where people regularly transit in and out). Their self-professed mission at the church is to make the city of Vancouver a better place.
Coastal Church has a strong emphasis on community with life groups running throughout the year in cycles on different topic or sermon. Congregation is comprises a lot of students and working adults and couples in downtown Vancouver. The church also encourages entrepreneurship and positive thinking. They have a strong online presence and social media team which is unusual for a church.
Services run weekly on Saturdays at and Sundays at 9 AM, 11 AM and 12:30 PM for about 1.5 hours, an introduction followed by a brief 45 minutes sermon between worship. Coastal Church is built in a historical building on 1160 West Georgia Street where you can see drawings of the old architecture of the building pinned in the hallways. They provide free coffee, apples, and snacks after service and also have a kiosk that serves ice cream, fresh squeeze orange juice at a nominal cost.
Address: 1160 West Georgia Street, Vancouver, BC V6E 3H7
TBD: This is kept in the faith that another church will come to Vancouver that will contribute to the local community J
More Churches in Vancouver:
Here are many other churches in Vancouver.
West Coast Christian Fellowship: WCCF was suggested on our Facebook post. They are a non-denominational church affiliated with Salt & Light Ministries (http://www.saltlight.org/international/). Their statement of faith can be found here. Services start at 11:30 AM on Sundays.
“We believe God has called us to be a Christ-centered, Word-based, Spirit-led Family.” – WCCF website
Address – 3198 E Georgia St, Vancouver, BC V5K 2L1
Website – http://wccf.ca/
Salvation Army Cariboo Hill Temple: Located in Burnaby, Salvation Army Cariboo Hill Temple was suggested as well on our Facebook post. I was not able to find mentions of their denomination but I would assume affiliation to the Salvation Army? Their statement of faith can be found here. Services run on Sundays at 10:30 AM and 6 PM.
They value, “People, Word of God, Growth, Spiritual Gifts, Relationships, Service, Prayer” – http://www.cariboohill.ca/our-values
Address – 7195 Cariboo Rd, Burnaby, BC V3N 4A6
Website – http://www.cariboohill.ca/
Bethel International Church: Bethel International Church was suggested from someone on our Facebook page. Services appear to be at 10 AM on Sundays. Not affiliated to Bethel music.
“We desire to make a lasting difference in people’s lives in the city of Vancouver and beyond. Our vision is to be a community of transformation: where people disconnected from God experience fullness of life through knowing Jesus.” – Bethel International Church website
Address – 739 33 AVE E, Vancouver, BC
Website – http://bethelinvancouver.com/
Redemption Church: Formally Point Grey Community Church which was joint with another church to form Redemption Church. They are a Pentecostal church with affiliations to the Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada. Services run on Sunday at 9 AM and 11:15 AM.
“To follow our Redeemer and King Jesus in bringing his love and salvation to every person we can. To be a church that loves others in a generous, gracious, and joyful. To make disciples who are obedient to Jesus in thought, word, and deed. To bring the transforming and renewing power of God into the city and the world.” – http://www.redemptionchurch.ca/about/
Address – 3512 7 AVE W, Vancouver, BC
Website – http://www.redemptionchurch.ca/
Relate Church: Relate Church was suggested by several on our Facebook page as well. Otherwise known as Victory Christian Centre, this congregation was renamed to Relate Church in 2009. It appears that Relate Church is affiliated to Hillsong Churches (Pentecostal) and have adopted a similar vision with the “Church that I see”. Services are on Saturdays at 5:10 Pm and Sundays at 9:40 AM along with 11:40 AM.
“We exist to build the church by developing flourishing relationships with God and people.” – Relate Church Website
Address – 6788 152 St, Surrey, BC V3S 3L4
Website – http://www.relatechurch.ca/
Trinity Central Church: This church was also recommended by someone on our Facebook page. It’s a new church in Vancouver seeking to impact this city with the message of the gospel. They are part of Newfrontiers family of churches. Trinity Central Church meets in the Vancity Theater on Sundays at 10:30 AM.
“We’re a community that’s all about loving God and loving people. Our vision is to reach and influence Vancouver by building a Christ centred church that changes mindsets and empowers people to lead and transform society in every sphere of life.” – Trinity Central Church website
Address – 1181 Seymour Street, Vancouver, BC V6B 2E8
Website – http://www.trinitycentral.org/
Think for yourself – I’ve heard it spoken before, “do not leave your brains at home when you come to church”. Remember to think for yourself. Church is not a place where you ignore logic or thought processes; God created your brain as much as he created you.
Do not let anyone else think for you; esteem the teacher but do not regard anyone more highly than you ought. Christianity is not a brainless religion; that’s a cult. Christianity is about relationship between a Holy God and humanity saved by grace and love. Many of the greatest philosophers and individuals in academia are Christians.
Adding or Taking – Be careful when people make deviations from the Word. There are minor and major disputes as in life there are disagreements of opinion and interpretations although the crux of the gospel and the God-head should not be disputed neither should the instructions in the Bible be contradicted.
I believe God has made us all with an intuitive desire for worship and community. This leaves room for error when the desire is abused. In my opinion, this is why Cults and religions can catch on so successfully when people add or take from the Bible for their own profit. For example the “children of god” cult that abuses the name of Jesus for sexual exploitation but completely ignores the Bible talks about sexual purity and lust.
Be careful when leaders knowingly make a deviation from the Word for their own intents or profits. If someone takes the frame and fills it with their own opinion and junk, take caution. Learn but judge and do your own fact checking. Acts 17:11
Compromises – This last caution may be subjective. I believe a church should never compromise on their convictions and their faith. It should not be bended to societal influence or what is “acceptable” to man. This applies to what is good, just, and true. Accepting a lie doesn’t make it anymore true and any less hurtful. One should not accept compromise in their faith or conscience. However neither should we expect everyone to agree with our convictions or believes and neither should we force such believes upon others unwillingly. God gave man free will, shouldn’t we respect their free will as well? (1 Peter 3:15)
Living in society with different believes requires acceptance but not compromises. Yes, compromise is necessary in daily life for a cohesive society though compromises should never be about Truths or facts.
Every individual is unique and different. Take the metaphor of plants, one plant may grow better in red soil with higher iron while another plant may grow better in soft, fertile soil with a lot of peat. I hope you find a good church in Vancouver and you enjoyed this article.
Note while denomination should not be a divisive factor, we have noted it because denomination represent slight differentiation in interpretation of certain scriptures or preferred style of worship. I find you may be more familiar or comfortable with a church that matches your denomination (upbringing or preference) enabling for fellowship in your community.
The purpose of this list is to help new Christians in Vancouver find a church they can get connected to and begin living life, growing, and serving the community and city at large.
Here are some previous text which was removed or updated; I am placing a reference of this for transparency…
- The following recommendation was removed on September 19, 2018:
Westside Church: A Christ-centered Mennonite Brethren church right in the heart of Vancouver pastored by pastor Norm Funk. This church has a history of going through books of the Bible for sermon series with relevance to modern living. It’s a great church that you can be sure is giving sound doctrine.
The community is friendly comprising of yuppies, young families, young professionals, and students. Westside also has a church in North Vancouver headed by pastor James Bonney. They run life groups throughout the year allowing for more tightly knitted fellowship in small groups.
Services throughout the year meet at 9 AM and 11 AM on Sundays though only one service per week during the summer at 10 AM on Sundays as well. The congregation is fairly large – may be the largest downtown Vancouver church with several thousand members. The Vancouver campus also features a cool café serving tea and pastries before and after service. It’s definitely one of my favourite churches in Vancouver.
Address: 777 Homer St, Vancouver, BC V6B 2W1
March 27, 2018 – I have some concerns personally regarding Westside Church’s doctrine and cultural values, while listening to a few audio sermons and have temporarily removed it from our five good churches list while prayerfully considering the matter. Cultural and doctrinal concerns. For such reasons, I cannot in good conscience recommend the church for the benefit of the Church.
May 15, 2018 – I will be keeping Westside Church off our recommendations for churches in Vancouver in good conscience. Didn’t actually take a month to decided but was reluctant to change anything on this article because it was written after a time of prayer (inspired thereafter to write this initial article as above which was finished in an hour – typos and all Haha).
I will be keeping Westside Church on the other churches in Vancouver list. Westside Church has at various times taken a stance again nationalism; while I believe, ultimate allegiance is to Christ, I don’t think it is beneficial but rather divisive to take such a stance against nationalism. (Not intending to bring race into the matter but I think it’s easy as a majority Caucasian leadership with North American origins to overlook this matter but those who have grown up in Asian heritages are taught the importance of remembering those before and of heritage, respect, and honor. “Christianity is the religion by which I live my life, but I continue to draw insights from and be guided by Chinese philosophy. Harmony is the goal of Chinese philosophy. It stresses harmony with oneself, harmony with nature and harmony with humanity” – David Lam) The Bible says every nation and every tongue – there is still a distinguishing between nationality and language but a unity in the body of Christ. They also take an unusual stance against commerce that Christians cannot accumulate any wealth but I would much rather see my brother with the wealth properly stewarded than not. I have several other observations that resulted the decision but I am very very cautious about what I write negatively of any church (not to say my opinion matters per say). I am also inclined to think they believe in replacement theology but the Bible says the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable further saying “God has not forgotten His people”. I also observe concerns about some sermons which have suggested believers visit temples and shrines for the “cultural experience”. As someone growing up in Singapore, where religious and racial harmony is emphasized. where Buddhist temples are common, I am not at all against temples or other religions however I find it hard to imagine reading the Bible about how God chastens the children of Israel not to learn from the Baals and to shun idols that it would say “when you go into the land I am giving to you, seek it out, observe their idols, and learn from their temples for cultural experiences for you will worship me as they worshiped their gods” (the Bible doesn’t say it – it actually says the opposite).
Further with regards to nationalism, Paul intently spoke, “For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more; and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law; to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law; to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. Now this I do for the gospel’s sake, that I may be partaker of it with you.” There are different fractions, nationality, and races of society – to each one is called to one… remain as you are called and be whom the Lord has called you to be. I do not think it beneficial to necessarily white-wash every individual to be bland and boring where nationalism is frowned upon in the church (in Singapore, many church pastors choose to honour government for a cohesive society). I for one, am thankful and glad to say I’m a Canadian emphasizing on Canadian cultural values. People are better reached when there are mutual ground, to be void of all nationalistic identity (or heritage) removes opportunity for connecting with others (or to seek the good of the country). It is not good for the Body and not good for the country of which the Bible says to seek the good of where you are. (both old and new testament) Nationalism is necessarily for nation building.
I suppose both concerns go hand in hand, when you remove something good it can easily be replaced with something perverse (unintentionally presumably). When you remove the cultural experience learning from heritage and history, you suggest replacing it with learning “cultural experience” from idolatry. I personally think error comes when we ignore the old testament as it was written. The Bible has both the new and old testaments and both are equally important to learn from. I believe there is grace and we live in the new covenant but I believe that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. The same character and jealously (good jealously – one that is jealous for His people, that is good for His people) that we see in God is the same God today. Although we don’t sacrifice sheep and oxen because the Lamb of God was slain from the foundation of the world to take away our sins and to know that salvation is in no other name than the name of Jesus. Simply by believing in His finish work and calling Him Lord have we received the salvation, freedom, liberty, and forgiveness that is found in Christ… By grace we have been saved through faith and not of ourselves so that no man can boast. (There is a measure of sovereignty in this whereby anything we do, it is permitted by God or it would not happen.)
I also have observed a lack of brotherly love and community at Westside Church as a few might attest to. The warmth of family; there will always be cliques in any society group however it seems very important to have a wide variety for a broader audience to belong somewhere; why I would also recommend people see out nationality churches like Indonesian Church with Indonesians or Korean Church with Koreans if that is their preference; a direct connection and belonging but ultimately all under Christ as head.
I am convinced it is also very socialist to the point of weakness (socialism works in places like Acts – within family context of which the Church is also family) however to suggest in a sermon that once your business starts making money to give the money away – (1) you will not be able to grow the business larger and (2) you are weakening the body collectively if it is stewardship and (3) it is not equality that the Bible teaches. You do not know the risks and things which an individual goes through which God teaches and trains an individual to handle His purpose. Such blanket statements/instructions are not ideal in my opinion. It is like saying once you build up a church, divide the members and go to another country – you shouldn’t have churches with more than 100 people. (not the case – there is no specific indication in the Bible about what sizes churches should be. Two person is a church if Christ is in the midst, 1000 is a church. In today’s context with society, I think mega churches have a role if their are doctrinally sound, strength in numbers with ability to impact the world greater.)
So alas, this is the lengthy discourse I wanted to write about why I have removed Westside Church from our recommended churches, not with spite, but in due consideration and prayer. This is a personal article which I hope will help new believers and this is a personal writing not void of errors so please share your opinions civilly bellow if you disagree. I am no theologian nor Bible student, just one who reads the Bible and knows Christ as Lord and Savior. As Elihu said in the book of Job, it is God who gives understanding.
What about churches in Port Coquitlam BC?
Hi E. Toews,
I’m not familiar with churches in Port Coquitlam although there are a couple in Coquitlam that I’ve heard about:
– Four Square North Side: This is quite a large congregation up on Westwood Plateau, I liked it a lot the time I went 5 years ago but there were some concerns.
– God Rock: This is a church in Port Coquitlam. A leader from Westside Church Caregroup call BJ preaches there often I think. Services are on Saturday if I’m not mistaken.
– Riverside Community Church: This was initially a sister church to North Side Foursquare which branched off on their own.
– Westwood Community Church: I attended this church a couple times. It may be a bit uncomfortable for those who are not accustom to free flowing services with dancers during worship time. (had a friend told me he thought the church was uncomfortable for him) It’s right on Westwood. The pastor hosts several events encouraging other pastors to come together. They focus a lot on the Jewish Messianic congregation too.
Sorry I can’t be more help with Port Coquitlam churches. Let me know if you have any suggestions for others who may be looking for good churches in Port Coquitlam.
I’m sure there are many excellent churches in Port Coquitlam, BC. Find one that fits for you. It’s important to ensure it’s Christ centered and biblical based. A good community helps too 🙂
(edited for typos)
There is also the Port Church in North Port Coquitlam that meets at BC Christian Academy school at 10 am on Sundays. It is a multi-site campus of CAChurch in Coquitlam – a part of the Christian and Missionary Alliance denomination. We would love to see you there.
Thanks Sharon. Appreciate the information about Port Church in North Port Coquitlam.
Broadway Church now also has a Port Coquitlam campus at 1932 Cameron Ave which was formally Cornerstone Church.
Could you provide links to any of the other churches in Vancouver? I don’t often get to Vancouver but I am sure there are more than five great churches. You can’t possible know them all well enough to write about them so a link to other churches would be good. Just a suggestion.
Sorry about the late reply. Yes, thank you for your suggestion. I have indeed created a section with “More churches in Vancouver” where recommendations provided by other Christians on our Facebook page is noted.
We try to only list recommendations where two or more Christians have suggested (2 Corinthians 13:1 – not the direct application but biblical principles are always a good guide.) so to minimize the chances of listing a church that may cause concern.
We’ve actually had mormons commenting on our Facebook post recommending their church despite this article intently warning against deviation from the Scriptures. (We have hidden those posts so that new believers are not confuse).
As this post is in part intended to help new Christians to Vancouver find a home church, we want to be a little careful about which church is mentioned.
We recommend CLA Church in Langley
Good fellowship and wonderful worship services and the teachings are awsome.
Appreciate your suggestion Luis!
I may not be reading thoroughly enough but I am surprised not to see in your list St. John’s Vancouver (ANiC), formerly St. John’s Shaughnessy but now separate from the Anglican Church of Canada. St. John’s has a world-wide reputation for being faithful to the orthodox and biblical Christian faith and for its fine biblical training and teaching. It is surely significant that one of its long-standing members is Dr. J. I. Packer, well-known author of Knowing God.
We have also suffered by losing our church home because we stood firm according to the cautions listed above.
Sorry about missing at Irena. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Will take a look at it.
St. John’s Vancouver Anglican Church located at 5350 Baillie Street, Vancouver is by far one of the best Churches in Vancouver. Pastor David Short one of the best Preachers I have ever heard.
I have been part of Willingdon Church in Burnaby as well as Broadway Pentecostal Church in Vancouver, but both Churches suffer from a lack of spiritual substance and a too great a focus on entertainment experience.
When John Neufeld was the main Preacher at Willingdon Church and Allon Hornby (before he died) the main Preacher at Broadway Pentecostal Church they most certainly were in my top 5 Churches.
Thanks for sharing about St. John’s Vancouver Anglican Church. I am glad to hear you’re found a good church in Vancouver that you can attend.
I do appreciate your feedback about Willingdon Church and Broadway Church. On a personal level, I am generally very cautious about criticizing any churches who (1) has Christ as their Lord (2) loves God (3) loves people. Each church have their own practice and their own audience; so long as they are staying doctrinal-ly sound (sticking to the Bible as the Word of God), while it may not be the church for you personally with your deeper interest for spiritual food…it can serve a blessing to many others who attend regularly.
Broadway Church does simplify their message significantly (generally to convey a simplified key point) however they also offer additional Bible study classes in between services for those who prefer to learn more about scriptures. The simplified message makes it easy for a large population of Vancouver demographic to learn biblical life choices. Although the Bible is so abundant that truly studying the scriptures direct is fruitful (1 Timothy 4:8). Their mission is to produce fully devoted followers of Christ which means bringing people from discovering Christ to centered in Him.
Admittedly, the style wasn’t to my preference but it would certainly fit a large demographic of a secular city like Vancouver. Remember the Christian faith isn’t only about one individual but the body of Christ and the wellness of the entire body (1 Corinthians 12 can be applied broadly here I suppose.) I do humbly wish they’d dive deeper into scripture but I’m no clergy so I’m sure they know better.
As a personal preference, I do prefer the scripture by scripture study at Westside however each demographic has their different preference and it’s good that there are churches here that try to reach the city of Vancouver.
I am not too sure about Willington as it’s the only church mentioned which I haven’t attended. I’ll likely be working on an update shortly when time avails.
Thanks for your comment Maurice.
By the way, it is Willingdon Chuch and not Willington, named after the Avenue is is located on. And I was part of that congregation for many years.
At Willingdon Church they have removed the pews and great sermons and replaced it with individual movie theater seating with large tv screens and very loud music with “sermonettes”. That is why I say that they have adopted the entertainment model for Church.
The individual movie theater seating does not even have communion service cup holders for when the Lord’s Supper is served. It shows where their priorities really are!
Thanks for pointing out the typo. I’m updating this article shortly and will fix those mistakes. As mentioned, Willingdon Church is the only church on the list I haven’t attended personally but took on recommendations of others I knew.
Another church I’ve gone to frequent recently is Tenth Church. Pastor Ken Shigematsu is a gifted communicator. He donates 100% of his book royalty “God in my Everything” to Christian ministries abroad; I find that refreshing with all the profiteering with Christianity.
The campus pastor Dan Matherson also freely gave facility use of their Tenth avenue church (around Broadway City Hall station) to House for All Nations church (a ministry catering predominantly to Indonesian ethnicity) when they didn’t have a meeting facility.
Will be adding your suggestion to the five list when I update it in March.
Another Preacher of small physical stature but a lion in preaching was (is?) Bruce Milne formerly of First Baptist Church, downtown Vancouver. He is my all time favourite Preacher.
That’s great to know Maurice. We’ll certainly look into that for our next update.
I’ve personally been listening to a few clips of First Baptist Church Dallas by Robert Jeffress recently which I’ve found very intriguing but sound. Would be great to check out the First Baptist Church of Vancouver.
First Baptist Church of Vancouver is “Arminian” in theology with an overemphasis on what we need to do for Jesus as well as “decisional regeneration” by the individual choosing to believe in Jesus, where the individual’s faith precedes Holy Spirit regeneration, which I believe is in error.
You are right in that faith in Jesus Christ alone should be the standard by which we are part of the family of God, but living a sanctified life is a close second in practical terms.
We are not to judge about life or death, but we are called to judge rightly and as such we do make decisions on whether or not anything is doctrinal or not and be like Paul when he confronted the Christian Corinthians in his letters addressed to them.
Hmm, I was unaware of that Maurice. Thanks for letting me know. I found the preaching of Robert Jeffrey of First Baptist Dallas, while unpopular, is still in accordance to scripture.
Absolutely Maurice. I’m sorry it took me this long to write a reply to you.
I agree, too often Christians cop-out and say “only God can judge me” as an excuse to avoid accountability; they do well not to wait for God’s correction and hear the loving rebuke of their brothers/sisters. I much rather have a brother correct my err than to persist so. As Proberbs 27:6, “Faithful are the wounds of a friend, But the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.”
There’s also Acts 17:11 about the Berean Jews, hearing a teaching and checking it according to the Word.
I think as the Body of Christ, we ought to lovingly correct any error in accordance to the Word and not to be afraid of being called legalistic (however done first and foremost in love for Christ and love for the Church). Also as the Holy Spirit works in our lives, that we should bear good fruits especially love for the brethren.
You should try out St. Andrew’s Wesley United Church on Burrard at Nelson in Vancouver. You will be amazed by the friendly folks, wonderful music and fantastic sermons and our Inclusive Theology!
Sunday at 10:15 AM
Jazz Vespers @ 4PM
Music and Meditation @ 7 PM
Come for an amazing experience!
Thanks for your suggestions Gordon – Benjamin
how about north vancouver or more specifically lynn valley? i was raised without god and im so hungry for religon but i have no where to start. im very confused lol. bless you! namaste 😉 i feel like people might see my past all over my face and judge me. but that isn’t gods love! anyway im babbling lol sorry.
You want to be hungry for a spiritual walk with the Lord Jesus Christ. Knowing God is about close relationship with Him where one can share anything, as if He’s your best friend, because He is. Having this relationship changed my life.
I wasn’t raised with God either. But God found me and made me His back in 1991. I was 38 years old. I called a pastor and he led me in prayer and I accepted the Lord as my Savior. Before that I was a New-Ager for almost 20 years.
Thanks for your comment. I’m happy to hear you’re interested in learning more about Jesus and the love of God. I think you should be fine visiting any church and asking the pastor your questions.
Westside does have a branch in the North Shore as well. Don’t worry about your past, everyone is imperfect and thankfully Christianity isn’t about your righteousness but what Jesus Christ as the Son of God did.
The Bible says in Christ you are a new creation and the old is gone. It doesn’t mean that sin and actions do not have their consequences but you have a loving Father in heaven who has justified you (for sin has a debt) and He cares and loves.
Lynn- check out Westside north shore. We would love to have you. We meet now at 9am and 10:30 at park & tilford movie theatre Sunday mornings. As soon as you enter you’ll see our connect center where you can find out more about the church, Sunday school classes for kids and many amazing programs for adults. We’ve been attending just over a year and absolutely love it.
Coastal Church Vancouver is one of those “truth is a commodity” churches. It’s not about the true search for truth within yourself. They believe if you’ve got enough money you’re a Christian and a great one.
I attended the church a short time. I left because the pastor, Coop, believed in something so far from the truth of Jesus Christ. He discovered I was an abuse survivor and promptly told me I was NOT welcome in any ministry until I was fully healed. Pure poppycock!
I have since learned that one never fully heals from abuse. Grief never ends, it lessens over time. That’s the norm for humans, Christian or not.
I eventually found a great church at Ladner Christian Fellowship in Ladner, BC. Genuine teaching and fellowship. I stayed there until I moved out of the area.
Thanks for your feedback. I am sorry to hear about your experience. I’ve only been to Coastal twice and didn’t get a full experience.
Happy to hear you’ve found a good church to grow in and serve.
l attended 1 service at Costal Church I knew from the first 15 minutes I was in wrong place
No one seems to have brought Bibles with them everything was loud and on a screen absolutely no one asked me my name or what I was seeking absolute everyone seemed to have a clique that they were part of I couldn’t bear it so within 45 minutes I was out of there again no one bothered to ask if l was okay on did I need some help This church not a church that connects our lives to Jesus Christ nothing about his atonement for me as a sinner and my way to salvation was Jesus Christ and only that all of trinity is one and yet in part different These are wolves in Sheeps clothing and bear no honor to God. If one looks further into the prosperity gospel it promotes people as little gods. a proponent of mormonism which is also a false doctrine and a cult. Its better not to go to church than attend Costal Church for confusion reigns supremely there
First of all, I am very sorry to hear that you had a negative experience with Coastal Church. However, I would like to respond to some of your comments. And for the record, I have been attending Coastal for over a decade but I am not employed by Coastal nor do I speak directly for any of the Coastal ministry team.
Your comment regarding Coastal being a “truth is a commodity” is misplaced. Coastal most certainly does not claim or believe that “if you’ve got enough money you’re a Christian and a great one” or anything close to that. Coastal is firmly planted on Jesus Christ being the only way to salvation, and money does not play into that.
Having said that, I myself have observed that some at Coastal do cultivate relationships with wealthy and powerful people in Vancouver. I can’t deny that this can lead to a sense of favouritism at times. I also know of some at Coastal that have felt slighted because of this. I wish I had a better response for this or explanation, but I don’t.
As for you being “abuse survivor and promptly told me I was NOT welcome in any ministry” I could see this happening but not in the blunt that way that is implied by the statement. I don’t know anything about you or your situation (apologies for not having a less vague term for that), and I wouldn’t dare to comment on that. However, I can say that the Koops are indeed very careful about who they place in any form of a ministry position.
One can debate the pros and cons for that, but either way that is the reality. I would be very surprised if Pastor Koop said it in such a blunt and uncaring way. But, obviously, I can’t speak for him or this particular situation. I do know that they try to get a very good sense of everyone that takes a ministry role, and sometimes they simply don’t feel it is a good fit for whatever reason.
One thing to keep in mind is that the Koops, the Coastal ministry team, and indeed all of the members at Coastal are not perfect. Everyone there is human, and as such is prone to failing, falling down, messing up, being biased, and hurting other people. One thing I have always loved about Coastal is everyone (including the Koops) seems willing to acknowledge that and try to work together to be better Christians. It doesn’t always work out, but we still try. Coastal’s “Make the City a Better Place” motto is very much meant to include ourselves in becoming better.
Is Coastal perfect? No, although in some ways that is the point. Will everyone feel at home at Coastal? Unfortunately no, but Coastal tries hard to make everyone welcome. Does attending Coastal mean you won’t see shortcomings in others? No, but again that just means we are human and struggle with things just like everyone else.
I have attended many churches in my lifetime across the world, and I have found Coastal to be one of the best churches that I have belonged to. People there try to be including and friendly, there is a great support network for getting involved, and the worship is great with lots of energy.
Again, I am sorry that your experience with Coastal wasn’t positive.
Thank you for your thoughtful insights onto the matter. As mentioned, I did not have enough experience at Coastal Church to touch on the matter.
I do especially like the reminder that we as the Body are still humans and susceptible to mistakes. Thankfully, there is always mercy with repentance and our identity is already found righteous in Him. Fact is, how we treat others matters. I have learnt however that God cares dearly about how we treat other brethren.
Each day that we walk with Him and seek Him through His Word, prayer, and communion, we live as better Christians.
Our standing never changes, once you accept Christ you are perfectly righteous in Christ before God; justified and forgiven of all sins. However, the reality is our daily work and life is a process, regeneration if you will, only by the Holy Spirit for as He gave us the grace to accept Christ for salvation.
Once you’re adopted to the family, your name and identity changes to the family’s name. However your stature and walk is a process once you’re in the family. I would think, the very fact we to realize and see our imperfection in light of His perfection is indicative of our being different.
I have observed your observations as well. It is important we avoid showing favoritism (James 2). Indeed, money is a useful tool for serving people but we should never forget that God looks at the heart.
Thanks again for your opinions.
I agree with you about Coastal church. To put it even more forward and bluntly, they want your money and will preach whatever “positive message” to attract it. They don’t care about sound doctrine or so you call it “truth”. Not sure, where the coops get their theology from. When I first started attending, I have to repent that, I chose it for its convenience and community. But when I realized that I needed to grow as a Christian, after 2 years listening attentively I realize that they never teach about suffering, and in my opinion, for a not so great reason.
Kuddos to you for being a survivor!
I’m sorry it has taken this long to respond to your comment. (Albeit your comment is addressed to Lorraine, but I try to respond to each comment on this article, especially out of respect for brethren… hope you don’t mind this response.)
I try not to jump on any bandwagon, or be hasty speaking or commenting against any church or teaching (even despite my own personal experience or observations), but thoughtfully consider it before any response. So while I noticed your comment weeks earlier, I decided to give it some time, thought, and prayer before replying.
[[[Actually on a tangent, I have some strong opinions about certain new doctrines in Christendom – that won’t fully equip believers to deal with the realities of life, because it leaves aspects of the Bible out in interest for making things comfortable instead of complete, and hence cause many to walk disillusioned because they expected a Utopian life irregardless of their or others’ actions and realistic limitations as soon as they come to Christ – but I keep my opinions reserved to myself unless relevant.
Actually, tangent aside without mentioning any names, I get upset sometimes at the commercialization of Christianity – good news sells well; some pastors should probably be businessmen than selling to the Church LOL. It comes down to matters of the heart. There is good news in Christianity but the truth should triumph – the Word of God is truth – not simply feel-good doctrines IMHO. Chief among all are some “televangelists” who own multiple private jets, and want a bigger one to “preach the gospel”. LOL.
However, it does little good to fight within the Body (IF someone is truly a Christian – even in the Bible you had the apostles correct well meaning but misinformed disciple in Acts 18:26 – so we’re all on a journey in this life of learning more about our God and Saviour. As long as the heart is right, let’s not be quick to judge. There are those who are out to deceive and may they receive their own lot of judgement from the Lord as Ananias and Sapphira. As Christians, we don’t often need to take judgement into our own hands because God is the ultimate judge and vengeance is His) – as the apostle Paul said, “Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from goodwill: The former preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my chains; but the latter out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel. What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice” (Philippians 1:15-18 NKJV)
This verse was in context of some people preaching Christianity in the days of the apostle Paul because it was convenient for them in terms of profit than the cause.]]]
Firstly, I am sorry to hear about the experience you’ve had at Coastal Church. As I mentioned earlier to Lorraine, I also share some concern which both of you have observed (which is why when with the edit made a year ago, I’ve put it at the bottom of the article but still leaving it as a mention)… I have notice (though I have not visited Coastal Church in the better part of a year – so perhaps things may have changed) that certain segments of the congregation can be fairly self-serving and “noses-up” (using church as solely a means of professional networking – if you don’t seem important enough, they won’t attend or converse with you. Being unassuming, but presentable is a great way to check character.
Actually, I have also had a personal experience in trying to contact Coastal Church about one of their sermons, and being brushed away fairly rudely – I won’t go to detail as I prefer anonymity and I don’t want to speak ill of Christians, even if I may have experienced it. This was some time ago – well before Lorraine’s comments – but I don’t translate my personal experience to criticism as best as I can, so have not mentioned it…taking it perhaps as the exception than the norm. I mention it now however to validate your opinions and observations.)
With this said, it has to be emphasized – a large majority of Christians at Coastal Church are friendly, genuine, and warm; people who truly make the city a better place for the glory of Christ. (There are some very clique-ish groups however, perhaps more than at other churches, that I’ve encounter personally as well.)
***However, I think Coastal Church has a meaningful role in City of Vancouver with how secular some of the city is – close to 50% are atheists, to reach seekers at their level of comfort. (and perhaps if the Lord wills to draw them deeper to seeking Him, and His Word.)
Yes, it is comfortable sermons but it’s suitable for the climate.
It’s a good church for downtown working professionals with convenience and community, while also new Christians. I gather it’s a church you can bring your friends to without too much concern the topic may be something uncomfortable for a seeker. (The Bible makes sense but sometimes context is necessary which newer Christians or seekers may not be familiar with and then be turned off from faith – like a popular talk show host who infamously said she couldn’t come to love God because the Bible said God is a jealous God and she couldn’t love a person who’s jealous. The definition of jealousy in this context is different from jealously in the form of covetousness; sometimes humans make too big of themselves too. Who are we to reject God even if He is a jealous God, can the clay say to the potter who formed him, why have you made me like this? God is good, and the definition of things good is by God’s standards.) And of course teaching should not bend to the comfort of men but the apostle Paul also talked on this topic when discussing about prophesy vs. tongues… inferring to watch for our testimony among non-believers. 1 Corinthians 14:22
I think Coastal Church serves well to the ambitious young professionals in downtown Vancouver. (It seems a lot of UBC Sauder School of Business students go there and working professionals in downtown Vancouver so it’s a good demographic for them to reach perhaps – of course, everyone is different but there’s a popular stereotypical saying of “Sauder Snakes” LOL – if you’ve known people at UBC, you’ve probably heard them mention about it.)
We have the remember the Body of Christ is not about us. Everyone is different. As Paul said to the Jews he became as a Jew, to those under the law as under the law, those without law as without law (but not without law unto Christ). He has become all things to all man that he might save some. I am paraphrasing than searching up the verse here. There are different levels of maturity in faith just as there are different levels of maturity in natural life. It’s good that you desire to seek deeper into the things of God and hope you found a community that can help – we should not forsake the assembling of ourselves. Denzel Washington, whom I admire greatly infamously said “Each one, reach one. Each one, teach one.”
Secondly, I am sorry to hear that you’ve experienced suffering in life.
I’ve gotten to your comment now inadvertently by responding to a Facebook comment (and going on a tangent, as usual, in course of my present musing – which in part was your comment, along with disgust over the Liberty University Scandal, and some personal experience in life – should clarify, unrelated to the nature of Liberal University scandal… many have suffered unnecessary pain in life because of the fallen nature in the world, the sin of others or ourselves):
“I believe the Bible is the eternal Word of God and when taken appropriately (in its full context) bears good fruits in one’s life and society at large. The teachings in the Bible actually breed harmony and love for each other in humanity while encouraging adherents to do good (Galatians 6:9) – both to those who ascribe to faith, and also those who have yet.
(Unfortunately, sin still has its natural consequences and we cannot always determine the decisions of others – as everyone is given free will – hence suffering can still exist despite obedience to scriptures.)
As the Bible says in 2 Timothy 3:16-17, “All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.””
You can read the full comment in the link above.
Thanks again for your comment and sharing your concern and opinions about Coastal Church. I am sorry about your experience at Coastal Church – while there are some noticeable concerns as we’ve seem to experienced, I do believe they seem doctrinal-sound in my opinion at least (I’m no preacher, just a lay man) and able to connect well with newer Christians or seekers. I hope you’ve found a good church that you can grow in Vancouver.
I won’t be removing them from the mentions in this article of my humble opinions, as I do believe their core doctrines of the God-head and Bible are correct, albeit sometimes selective in parts (Although, I’m just a layman who reads the Bible and believes in Christ. Not a pastor. Not even important enough to join the the cliques or raise concerns about sermons LOL – I’m sorry, I joke a little sometimes passive aggressively.) – although of course the congregation can have perhaps more clique-ish than other churches. I believe they do have an important role to play nonetheless in the city and many will find it to be a good church for them – as hundreds others have.
Another tangent – they seem to ascribe to the believe that everything is the sovereign will of God such as even in the Bible with the apostle Paul disobedience not to go to Jerusalem leading then to his death in Rome – I don’t think that’s Biblical because if you think everything is the sovereign will of God then does that not make it mean that God is doing the harm? Basically, Paul was warned not to go to Jerusalem but he insisted on doing it anyways and hence was delivered to the gentiles just as it was prophesied; I don’t think this was God’s will. God sent three prophet to warn him – but he disobeyed. Still God is a merciful and graceful God and still sent Paul to Rome (as was his calling) despite his disobedience – albeit, I think it could have been done differently.
God is sovereign. He knows everything that is, that could be, that will be. He has also given has free choice, just as Adam chose disobedience.
I’m surprised one of the fastest growing churches in Canada is not on here — Village Church in Surrey. It’s a plant from South Delta Baptist Church (in Tsawwassen), started in 2010 with well over 4000. Village Church is along the lines of Westside (mentioned above), to the extent the lead pastors of both churches have swapped speaking at each other’s churches.
Village Church has grown in leaps and bounds through many baptisms — these can often be seen at the White Rock pier. They have 4 services at the main site and 3 others between two other sites (Pacific Academy auditorium and in Langley). With a total of 7 services altogether, 3-4 of them will be live, the rest are videoed and shown at random sites/times.
They go through books of the Bible for their sermon series. It’s a church with many young adults. The lead pastor, Mark Clark, and the others who take turns speaking, bring the Bible to life by making it relevant to today’s society / life.
They target young families, mainly dads. They want to teach dads to step up for their families, communities and church.
And the worship is not ‘good enough’, because of its size, the church has fantastic players doing their best. The worship pastor is very sound doctrinally himself.
Thanks for your comment.
I am sorry if you got the wrong impression that I was looking only to share about the biggest church in Vancouver. On the contrary, a large church does not imply a biblical church or a flourishing membership. What matters as you know, is how Christ is glorified and how well is the flock.
I was simply trying to share base on personal experience of some churches I was familiar with that upheld to Biblical truths. In hopes to hopefully help others looking for a good church to get connected with.
Great to hear about the Village Church however.
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I commend the author for starting this platform. I am a member of Cityview Church on Sophia and 28th Avenue near Main Street. Trevor Josh is our pastor for almost 6 years. We are a small church with a huge heart where authenticity and love for each other is the first thing people have noticed right away. Came across this site by pure accident because I was looking for churches I could start a conversation regarding social isolation.
For 2 years Beyond The Conversation has been addressing the big issue of social isolation. We want to close this gap and we hope to collaborate and partner with the Christian community in Metro Vancouver. I am interested to get to know more people who have the same passion. I can be reach at email@example.com
PS: I have enjoy reading all the posts and comments.
Thanks for sharing about Beyond the Conversation. I am glad to hear that you enjoyed reading the article and the corresponding comments. It’s very cool to learn that you’re keen on getting people and the Church connected in Metro Vancouver.
I am planning on moving to Vancouver by May of 2018, and as I searched for churches in the city, came by this blog and forum.
Thank you Brother Benjamin and the team at Vancity. You relate to people with genuine Christian love and attention. God bless you all.
I wonder if I can be connected to a church or ministry to serve with when I move over. I currently pastor a young church here in Lagos.
Sorry about the late response to your comment. I’m glad to hear you’re planning on moving to Vancouver by May 2018.
Happy to hear as well that you found this content to be useful. It is my pleasure to share my dabble of opinion on this article, personally. While it may be difficult to convey love and attention, I’m happy to hear it came through online.
Are you asking about finding a church to be connected to and attend when you’re here or a church to serve in as a minister? If it is the first, I hope the information above may help. If it is the latter, I do apologize I am not able to assist further.
However, if you do require some assistance getting settled in Vancouver when you arrive, we’d be happy to help if we can. Feel free to use the contact form here when you do arrive in Vancouver! We can help you get connected with the professionals or information you would appreciate or assist any other way able.
Which churches in Coquitlam (and East Burnaby, and New West) are good? And also with lots of continuous songs to get you in the spirit (and better mood) before hearing the message? Thank you
Sorry about the late reply. I have a practice to respond to every comment from a brother/sister whether by email or reply; I did remember writing a reply but must have saved it in draft somewhere instead of posting. Apologies about only getting to your question now.
Absolutely, I understand what you’ve mentioned about the worship being very important to hearing the word preached. I believe that is something innate was music was designed to help our mind and spirit connect with God as well. (2 Kings 3:15) Worship and music is always important and should not be under emphasized.
I’m not very familiar with churches in Coquitlam, East Burnaby, or New Westminster that do so however. Westwood Community Church does focus on free-flowing worship which perhaps you might be interested checking out. Perhaps someone else can help you with this. I have a few friends who attend the Salvation Army Caribou Hill Church as well. There’s also Christ Commission Fellowship which is a plant from a church from Philippines.
Broadway Church also has an extended worship service the first Sunday of every month if I’m not mistaken part of their “dynamic spirituality” emphasis.
Hope you find the right church for yourself.
I am a believer, I am an Iranian and a refugee in Turkey. I need help, but I did not find any donation charity. please guide me. I wrote here because I asked God for help and I want it.
Apologies about the late reply. I hope you’ve managed to find the assistance you needed by now.
There was little I could do to help anyways as I’m not familiar with the refugee system and process neither my area of expertise – neither familiar with Turkey. It would probably be better for you to get in touch with a local church in Turkey who might be able to help you more practically than from Vancouver.
There is a Coquitlam Church in Iranian on Saturday late afternoons.
I’m not familiar with any Coquitlam Church in Iranian, however Westwood Church does have an Iranian ministry at 1 PM on the 1st Sunday of very month:
Unfortunately, Broadway Church does not have an Iranian translation (just Chinese, Cantonese, and Portuguese).
Willingdon does offer a translation for Farsi:
Coastal Church has an Iranian pastor (and quite a few Farsi speaking members when I visited) but I’m not too sure if they offer Iranian/Farsi translations at their Pitts Meadows (or even downtown) location.
There is also an Emmanuel Iranian Church in Coquitlam & North Vancouver but I do not know anything about them:
Likewise a Calvary Persian Church:
You’re likely to find several Iranian Churches in North Vancouver as there’s a vibrant Iranian community there:
Hope this is useful in some way but apologies I couldn’t be further assistance here; I haven’t personally attended any churches in Iranian. Hope someone else may be able to help perhaps!
I’ve become born again and saved almost 3 years ago after spending many years in the I cult. I am searching for a Church that practises deliverance and operates under the gifts of the Holy Spirit through the five fold ministry. David Wilkerson is my favorite Preacher. I have attended a few churches in Vancouver but I haven’t found what I am looking for. I’ve attended Grandview Apolostic Church which appeared to have everything I’m looking for but they support a Oneness view and I am a firm believer of the trinity. I want to hear really convicting preaching that focuses on hell, sin, righteousness and holiness. Can anyone perhaps point me in the right direction and help me find such a Church?
Thanks for your comment. I’m happy to hear that you found the truth of Jesus Christ and became a born again Christian.
If you’ve found Grandview Apolostic Church to be everything you’re looking for but the believe of the Trinity vs. oneness then perhaps stay at the church if you see God to be leading so and instead pray for the leadership in love and grace. A popular Christian band, Phillips, Craig, and Dean used to have the oneness believe (if I’m not mistaken) as well but were corrected on their viewpoint. So long as everything else is Biblically adhered to and the leadership is humbled, I believe God corrects. (and importantly you know what you believe) In wisdom, it may not be best to speak directly with the leadership as some church may view this in err. I believe God can always correct and lead a humble heart; it is our own pride that keeps us in err.
There is a very real spiritual world where light and darkness exists, good and evil, righteousness and belial and there is indeed deliverance ministries and a real importance to those. As the Bible says our battle is not against flesh and blood but against powers of evil and principalities (however dealing with the flesh and blood is important as well at times as I’ve found – sometimes habits and wrong believes/thinking can be remedied by the Truth of the Word of God.) In my experience, many churches shy away from the aspect of spiritual attacks or deliverance, perhaps, because it seems unusual “weird” to visiting members/unbelievers (and very truly our testimony among men does matter so being aware of observers can be helpful) OR quite often it is abused (people saying you need deliverance for every matter – it is my opinion that a believer is hard to be possessed if possible for if the Holy Spirit is in a child of God and Jesus said that He will send the Holy Spirit to be with them forever ~ would darkness be able to share room in a vessel set apart for purity?). Deliverance was more needed in the old testament where God had yet to send the Holy Spirit into the world, when Christ was not yet seated at the right hand of the God. It would also seem as if there is a differentiation to becoming a Christian and receiving the Holy Spirit’s baptism (which is a choice) as when Paul asked the Christians if they have been baptized, Acts 19:1-6. All this to say, if a Christian has received the Holy Spirit and confessed Christ as their Lord – it is unlikely the individual is possessed requiring deliverance from sickness or what not but the laying on of hands and prayer of the elders – James 5:14-16 (Biblically speaking)
There are some people who are born more intuitively spiritual (like seers or prophets in the Old Testament) and hence desire for a more spiritual aspect to faith. (Which can also be imparted by prayer, laying on of hands and anointing as we read in Timothy about Paul’s instruction to Timothy – 1 Timothy 4:14. On this matter, desiring spiritual gifts is also beneficial such as desiring for the gift of wisdom or prophecy as the Bible says – 1 Corinthians 14:1. Some things are given as you ask. – Matthew 7:7-11)
Unfortunately, I am not familiar with any churches that emphasize on deliverance ministry in Vancouver. You might be looking for a Pentecostal church which does emphasize on the spirituality elements of Christianity especially pertaining to the gifts of the Holy Spirit. I would suggest perhaps visiting Broadway Pentecoastal Church to seeing if you like it? Apologies I couldn’t be more help.
Also further as we see many instances of Jesus casting out spirits when He walked on the earth (syrophoenician woman’s child, the man with the epileptic child in Matthew 17, even Peter at times – Luke 4:8)
However, now Christ is risen and He has sent His Holy Spirit to dwell in His children. Our thoughts can still be sourced from varying places (self, external, or God-inspired)
This is what I was taught and it seems Biblical.
Hello and thank you for this post.
It seems the comments have stopped since last September but I’d to leave one anyway.
I too have been searching for the “best-fit” church in Vancouver but am slowly arriving to the conclusion that I will not find it. This is why I consider most helpful your reminder to keep your brain engaged during fellowship.
While every believer belongs to Christ, and we are told to be loving in our disagreements, no congregation has the right to tell us how to think or what to believe.
Thanks for your comment. (There were a couple comments but they were facetious in nature – like saying churches’ tax exemption should be removed. It’s not all roses & peaches in the comments section for a religious article so I filter out those offensive & facetious ones.)
Yes. Came to that conclusion as well after searching around for a home church.
Glad to hear the reminder was useful. We should always esteem a Biblical teacher with the right motives/heart but always think for ourselves checking with the Word as the Bible says. No man can override the Bible – the Word became flesh and dwelt among us (John 1:14) referring to Jesus.
I personally find as I mature more in Christ, I spend less time listening to sermons and more time in reading the Bible. (Perhaps because many sermons these days are overly diluted.)
That’s true as well. There may be disagreements but we can lovingly correct each other in Christ. What’s important is approaching with meekness and a heart of love. Thanks again for your comment.
I went to Westside for a year. There are very nice people there, but it is rather a lonely place. I had to get into small groups to make friends.
They push Calvinism hard. They preach on predestination once a year from Romans and its very divisive. Their interpretation was pretty bad Imo and overlooked many passages that say God is not willing that any should perish and read into the text that that means those who were predestined.
They indeed teach replacement theology and are preterist when it comes to Bible prophecy. As such they never teach from any prophetic texts. It does a disservice to the congregation to ignore a huge chunk of the Bible because of strongly held preconceptions.
I left and found a tiny calvary chapel which faithfully teaches through the Bible and loves Israel.
Thanks so much for taking the time to share your experience at Westside Church.
Firstly, I am happy (and disappointed) to hear that my response, and experience at Westside Church is validated. Writing the excerpt above was not about knocking down another church (as another comment had accused – the person ironically thought I was doing this article & ‘attacking’ Westside Church for the money by getting ads. *laugh emoji* Clearly, she doesn’t know writing an article like this could cause a lot more jeopardy/loss in Vancouver than good.) but correcting a prior error, and directing new Christians to a Christian community that may be better suited for their growth, and fellowship in Christ.
Absolutely, I think there are some great people there and genuine believers which was my perception when I first attended for a year as well. It is however very difficult to make connections there as I also observed; lots of smiles but harder to get connected.
Also agree with you on the topic of Calvinism. I do believe God is sovereign and omniscient but also that God lets us choose. Going back to the Garden of Eden, I highly doubt that God intended for Adam and Eve to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil; but for true love, you must have the choice. God did not choose or elect for man to rebel and commit treason. Likewise, in Deuteronomy 30:19, “…that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live;”
God has given humans the ability of choosing; choosing life or death, choosing obedience or disobedience, choosing good or evil. Or when Israel asked for a King and God gave them Saul. All these examples in the Bible point to an all powerful, all knowing, all present God who knows the end from the beginning (who knows everything that is, that could be, that will be) – but also the awesome wonder that He enables men and women made in His image to exercise their decision and choices. Just as also in 1 Kings 19 with Elijah and the great victory over jezebel and the baals, and then asking God to return Home… beginning the succession with Elisha. (There is no ‘time’ for you to head Home – but you can choose how much you want to live on earth… which your choices can also be reflected by how you treat/care for your body. I submit to you that Christians are much more useful on earth at the present moment.)
I believe in a measure of predestination, but I believe there’s an aspect of decision making ability which God enables. (Of which, once you take drugs, you rescind that ability. Hence, I have strong opinions against drugs and controlled substances. You lose your humanity. It’s evil… and why I do not have a fond opinion of those who advocate for drugs legalization.)
And yes, that verse is 2 Peter 3:8-10, “8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward [a]us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.”
Although there is also another verse that says it is God who grants repentance, “in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth,” – 2 Timothy 2:24-26
As well, that salvation is not of our own works but a gift of grace, “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.” – Ephesians 2:8-9 NKJV
The Power of Prayer in Salvation:
Further, Acts 12 where Peter was released from prison explicitly states that, “but constant prayer was offered to God for him by the church” whereas this was not mentioned in the execution of John. A similar story when Abraham pleads with God about Sodom and Gomorrah about the righteous. I believe, pertaining to salvation – prayer is not insignificant.
We cannot do the work of God. We can supplicate with God and stand in the bridge if God will hear of which we know in His Word that if we pray according to His will then we know He hears us and if we know He hears us, then we know we have the supplication we have asked for. It is truly amazing and awe-inspiring how an awesome and great God chooses to let humanity “partner” with Him in how the story is written.
No Contradictions, just human misunderstandings/limitations – Infinite vs. Finite:
In my humble opinion, perhaps because I’m not as learnt as some theologians; I don’t think the Bible has any contradictions or mistakes… rather, I choose to believe it is our limited understanding to an infinite God – many of the supposed contradictions can be explained when you look at it as a Venn Diagram, where the answer lies between overlaps – they are not mutually exclusive. I do believe in sovereignty and predestination but I also believe in free choice *that God has given*. That God permits us to choose but He declares the end from the beginning. (Isaiah 46:10)
I am more than willing to acknowledge my frailty and limited understanding. Of which to acknowledge, any wisdom or understanding is a gift. Just as God granted repentance; when you’re blind in your own ways you often cannot see the true path unless God grants repentance.
Does God regret? Examples of Choice?
Likewise, when Saul turned away from God – and God said through Samuel that He greatly regretted making Saul king. If God had elected Saul to fall away from obedience, then He wouldn’t have ‘regretted’ I would suppose. Therefore I conclude that there is a will of God, but there is a choice that He affords to humanity who have been made in His image – He is not willing that any should perish, but there is election.
I also learn from this passage the importance of waiting on God than being hasty in our own timing. Saul should have waited for Samuel EVEN THOUGH Samuel was late in arriving for the sacrifice. Hindsight is always 20/20. I believe there is a point of choice and sovereignty in this as well to establish David as king over Israel and the tribe of Judah. Although just as with choice, David’s later suffering in life – I believe was the result of his choice to sin with Bathsheba and killing an innocent man. (but as the Bible says, God works all things for good – even our messes and mistakes… does not mean that all things are good.)
I suppose all this points to the conclusion that there can be a juxtaposition, but not a contradiction. God is JUST but He is loving. So because humanity chose death and sin – He sent His Son to take the penalty for whosoever would believe. You could also say the ‘whosoever’ in John 3:16 shows an element of freewill as well.
As a general rule, I always trust the Bible over the interpretation of men.
Yes, it was my perception as well that they taught replacement theology (of which I agree with the likes of John MacArthur (saw his interview in some Ben Shapiro’s clips) and many other wiser who say replacement theology is a form of antisemitism. The Bible does refer to “for the sake of their fathers” in Romans. The Bible teaches in Romans that we were grafted into the vine of which we are wild branches and they are natural branches. This completely puts off any form of replacement theology in itself – and many supporting verses in Romans can be considered to further validate that point.)
Anyways these are just my opinions and I would be glad to hear any corrections on my perceptions about Westside Church if I’m mistaken. It’s a community with many wonderful people and believers, but I think there are some key points that weaken the global Church and why I have removed them from my opinionated suggestions after having mentioned it previously. (I also fear the growth of antisemitism and I know God loves the Church AND Israel. I don’t think replacement theology does any good in this regard.)
They are also strongly against nationality. But as mentioned the Bible says “every tribe” and “every tongue”. It’s easy to say you cannot identify with your country – like Canada – happy being a Canadian… or your race, like being “ethnic Chinese”. However, if the Bible says of Paul that he became all things to all men, that he might save some (to the Jews, he became under the law. to the gentiles, he became as one not under the law but not without law.) I think nationalism is a good thing and I think remembering your heritage is good and important. (As well, I’ve been bullied before for my heritage… as many people of colour might have, it is ignorant to say you should forget your past or your history. I was thinking the other day that there is no division of race in Christ – but one body, united. Although in this fallen world, even if everyone were a Christian – there’d probably still be conflict & division like disagreements on doctrine and theology as before among protestants and Catholics. The prospect of complete peace only comes when Christ comes to reign forever in the new heaven and new earth – which is certainly not preterist doctrine.) I am not familiar with preterist and had to search up what it meant.
They appear top for most searches pertaining to Churches in Vancouver or Vancouver Churches because they host many secular and religious events of which provides a link to their website from authoritative sites like Vancouver International Film Festival. So this is the primary option which new believers and those interested in Christianity see. I hope to be able to help others find other choices for a Christian community in Vancouver as well.
Anyways, I’d love to know what Calvary Chapel you attend as it sounds like a wonderful church, I’d like to attend.
I do apologize that it has taken me this long to pen a proper reply. (I make a practice of responding to every message/email/comment written by a brother or sister in Christ. Unfortunately, I thought to leave your message to a later time when I could respond more thoughtfully as you raised some valued points. As procrastination goes, I just got to your comment upon responding some new comments on other pages.)
Funnily enough, I met a man name Trevor while attending Westside Church (I tried to strike small conversations with people albeit it was a large and unfamiliar congregation which seemed cold at times.) who was a security volunteer at the church – that wouldn’t be you would it?
TL;DR – there is no mistake with God who is perfect. We who are not perfect, make the mistakes.
I am a new immigrant and looking for a good church.
Is there any church where there is a service for the kids.
My daughter is 6 and she really wants to go to church.
She always says “I love Jesus”.
Could you send me an email? Thank you so much.
Thanks for your comment. I’m so happy to hear that your daughter loves Jesus and you’re looking for a church in Vancouver to attend.
Most churches do have a child care program for kids – generally the bigger churches do have a more comprehensive children’s ministry but of course it varies.
I think Broadway Pentecostal Church might be suitable as they’re very multicultural (so might be excellent for a new immigrant) as well having a full children ministry. Coastal Church in downtown Vancouver also has a children ministry but as they have several campuses and a small congregation, the children ministry is also smaller – I know Broadway Church children’s ministry is grouped by age which might be good for younger children who may play/learn better among their age group (I don’t currently attend Broadway Church so not too sure if this changed)… I’m not familiar if this is the same with Coastal Church. Both are excellent churches in Vancouver imho. You could also check out a few community churches in your neighbourhood but I’m not familiar with them.
I’ll follow up with an email as requested. Thanks again.
Ps. Welcome to Vancouver! Hope you enjoy this city and find a good church for your family.
I think it should also be noted as I have previously been falsely accused (in comments) of disparaging a church (Westside Church – note above regarding the racial & cultural diversity and advocacy of in my opinion, idolatry) to make a “profit” – that I think it’s worth while to clarify the following.
…while I believe that as Biblical instruction in Matthew 6:3 that we should not publicize any giving (You can choose the praise of men or the praise of God; in my personal opinion, the opinion of God is more weightier than the opinions of men. Matthew 6:1), “But when you do a charitable deed, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,”
However, in wisdom, I think it is well worth noting that the actual “revenue” from this article or Adsense for that matter isn’t at all substantial. It’s probably already clear the main purpose of this website isn’t about money (else if you really wanted to make money from content – sponsored content is really what you should be doing… ad revenue is peanuts, literally typically just to pay for hosting at present. Haha.)
I have always intended since the onset of writing this article that all ad revenue from this article would be donated to a Christian non-profit organization… in this case specifically, I’ve donated all the Adsense ad revenue since the post published to Christian Broadcasting Organization – more accurately, their Canadian branch which is the 700 Huntley Club. (I believe in their organization, doctrine, and stewardship of resources.)
I always felt uncomfortable with profiting from Christianity and honestly I’m quite disgusted by the profiteering of Christiandom these days; it feels like making money from family and immoral. I’ve always believed that any direct Christian-related profit should be donated and steward collectively. (Instead you have the trend these days of celebrity pastors writing books after books to collect income and live a luxurious life on the back of their constituents preaching “good news” and making promises that God has not made.)
So once again to clarify, we do not get any financial remuneration from this article since the beginning. ALL the ad revenue (which is relatively minuscule – just several hundred dollars) has been donated to CBN.
I believe in making monies outside the church-the family by creating value, not profiteering inside… which is why I never had an interest in pursuing full time ministry despite a love for the Word of God.
Easter is coming up and while I’d usually use this opportunity to run social media ads directing people to churches in Vancouver sometimes with the usage of this article (of which over the years have amount to thousands of dollars which I’ve paid myself – so once again, it’s not about “profiting”) however I’ll abstain from doing so this year as I have since COVID19 started… since while I believe in healing promised in the Bible, I also believe in being socially-responsible citizens in society (as taught in the Bible both in Romans 13 and by principle… love does no harm to its neighbour so love is the fulfillment of the law.) and the truth of the matter is that everyone’s circumstances and standard of faith is different (as taught about conscience in Romans 14)… therefore I did not think it socially responsible to encourage in-person gatherings which may harm the elderly or immuno-compromised.
[As a tangent, regarding COVID19, I made a personal choice of being unvaccinated, not on the basis of conspiracy theorists but as I educated myself on the risk or lack of data regarding mRNA tech and the potential for heart inflammation especially among males and young adults – of which, I had heart issues at birth.
Therefore, my risk is disproportionate to the benefits – of which mRNA vaccines were not very effective in preventing transmissions therefore this is not about being socially responsible citizens but only primary function being preventing of severity. However, as a healthy young adult by God’s grace, with no known comorbidity and living a healthy lifestyle for the most part – I calculated I would fair fairly well even if I caught it. I did however consciously minimize my interactions and also wore a mask carefully.
In the end, I did catch Delta
which admittedly at the onset I knew by faith that it would be mild – and indeed it was. I didn’t even have any noticeable fever, just some slight additional effort breathing several days in and congestion for a month. With the contagiousness of Omciron, I did also likely catch Omicron approximately nine months later – which LOL, was literally nothing more than a REALLY BAD sore throat and running nose which symptoms completely cleared within a week with no lasting symptoms.
I believe the promises of God that provide healing by the finish work of Christ – I believe also your body knows your conscience and if your conscience is clear, your body will avoid attacking itself and instead attack foreign pathogens.
However, I also believe the instructions of the Bible NOT to test the Lord your God
and to practice wisdom as wisdom is the principle thing. Therefore I believe it’s important to acquire knowledge about your health and prevention measures and do all that you can and then trust God with your health and future – after all, if you truly believe in Christianity – death is not to be feared… it’s just less productive for the cause of Christ on earth but as the apostle Paul put it, actually better for him (Philippians 1:22).
Hence I put my hope for health in the hands of God but conduct myself with wisdom, taking careful precautions – when it is non-invasive like wearing masks
compared to invasive and unknowns like a new-tech vaccine .
So in the end, COVID19, even without the vaccine wasn’t much an issue physically as a young adult. Of course, I’m cognizant that my experience is not reflective of others necessarily and I fully believe the mildness or healing of my experience with Delta and Omicron is thanks to God
– I knew from the onset of Delta while in prayer that I believe God said it would be mild and indeed it was. In fact, my experience for Delta was milder than what I’ve seen on Youtube of others battling presumably Omicron which is milder than Delta.
I’m kind of thankful that I had the natural immunity with a natural booster from Omicron 9 months later. LOL.
Of course, each should conduct themselves according to their conscience before God and what is right for them… most of all by the Word of God.
However, COVID19 is not a hoax or a joke and it does take lives especially of the elderly and immuno-compromise, so I believe in the importance of being socially responsible and wearing masks when around elderly or indoors to protect them as that is the function of mask. Masks reduce transmissions to others for asymptomatic & symptomatic carriers – it doesn’t really protect you much unless you wear N95 only with safety goggles and wash your hands religiously, while vaccines reduce severity. Hence basically I could not in good conscience recommend people gather physically in churches when I knew some may be fatally harmed… and not everyone may have the faith to believe for healing.]
Also the irony of this is, you have “Christian preachers” saying COVID19 is from the devil. LOL. …which I think is not very Biblical. Viruses and pathogens are a fact of life throughout history; it is the nature of an imperfect and fallen world. If you were to look at it Biblically, diseases and such pandemics are often instead judgement tools used by God (1 Chronicles 21:7).
In some sense, I’m grateful that COVID19 really exposed a lot of false teachers and removed the profitability of Christianity for a period… as Christine Caine put it, it’s like a timeout for the Church. People were so obsessed with their own popularity and their own profits from book tours and concerts than the gospel – and well, COVID19 put an end to that for a period of introspect for many, likely.
Many commercializations in Christiandom have become more like Judas to care about the facade and the monies than about the Kingdom and God. (I think investments into Christian resources can be beneficial for the furtherance of the gospel – so I don’t necessarily take fault with Christian music or book publishers… however, I think it’s a fine line and many have made it about money rather than God. Personally, it is against my conscience to profit from anything directly about Christianity… so if supposedly I were to create a Christian-orientated website, it’d have to be non-profit. Not so however about applying Christian principles or sharing the gospel in a secular business world…which many saints before have found success by applying Biblical principles, from Quakers to Tangs.)
Of which, I would caution about the “radical grace gospel”. Holiness and righteousness matters – it is written repeatedly in the Bible with 1 John to Jude 1 that you know a true believer by one who loves their Brethren and who live as Christ lived. The fact of the matter is that we CANNOT live holy lives apart from the Holy Spirit and being truly saved; it is not in the power of the flesh. However, if one is truly saved then it is a process of sanctification as the apostle Paul taught in Romans (which the radical grace gospel likes to quote but ignoring the entirety of the context) to deny the flesh and live by the Spirit for the flesh leads to death and the Spirit to life. Therefore, there is grace – but there is still sin and the consequences thereof.
When one falls, as we will, then however it is important to repent as taught. (However the radical grace gospel teaches against repentance – saying instead it means “changing of the mind” therefore they should change their mind than wallow in remorse. I think there can be a measure of holy remorse with repentance, as it would of any failure and I think it is a good process of repentance.) However, the radical grace gospel seems to make repentance and the law seem like an unclean thing rather than a beautiful and holy thing intended for good and protection than bad – but which without Christ we have no ability to carry forth.
So then it makes promises of a “righteous man” on behalf of God without the practicality of protection and safety that carries with righteous living – in my opinion, it’s no different from writing a check on another’s name… except also profiting from the fraudulent check.
The new form of “radical grace gospel” in Christianity seems to put aside all morality and holiness and instructions and statues and laws of God which King David loved and God called him a man after His own heart. Whereby also the Bible instructions the importance of wisdom, understanding, and knowledge.
Then, you have false Christians doing whatever they want, comfort with their conscience seared by “radical grace” that they are righteous…. conducting all sorts of immorality and sin that harms others and steals the glory of God – then going and calling anyone who says that holiness and righteousness matters a “pharisee” and legalistic.
That is not what Christ taught.
For the fact of the matter, the Pharisees were lovers of money and the praise of men more than God. God did not chide them for the love of the laws, statues, and instructions of God (which are holy, just and good) which when given the ten commandments God intently said this will set Israel apart from all nations that the other nations will look and say that these people have wisdom because of their laws. No, the Pharisees, just wanted the praise of men and the love of men while religion was their means – these actually is very reflective of many profiteers in Christiandom today. (whether they teach the law or “radical grace”)
I should add however that apart from mercy – the consequences of our sins are still present. There is grace of God and yes grace abounds when sin abounds but that is not to excuse your sin for if you are truly saved, sin should make you VERY uncomfortable and unhappy. It is however still a process of denying the flesh, for God and living by the Spirit. The Spirit brings forth to life while the flesh to death.
So in short, live by the Word of God and not by the doctrines of men. In all this, to be fully transparent – despite having written this article about the importance of gathering with the Church and fellowship – I’ve mostly stopped going to church several years ago (partly COVID19 partly I did not find the diluted teachings worth my time) instead have relied on reading the Word.
Finally there are also degrees in differentiation of sin – which the radical grace gospel teaches against differing in severity of sin. In actuality, the Bible explicitly says that all other sin a person commits are outside their body, but sexual immorality is sinning against one’s self. (1 Corinthians 6:18). The worst still in my humble opinion is their emphasis on “hearing from God” and “being led by the Spirit” which I believe is good but without the emphasis on following God’s Word. Christianity is not a dead religion; fellowship with God and having your own Jesus as Casting Crowns’ Mark Hall puts it is important. However, if you will not follow the written Word that you have – if you choose willfully to ignore it – how or why would you expect the Holy Spirit to lead and speak to you the rhema? (Luke 16:12, Luke 16,11)
The worst are sexually immoral people trying to “prophesy”… do not expect to hear from God if you are walking in sexual immorality – just don’t. Repent and follow the written Word first before you try to speak on God’s behalf. (and yes, fornication – Biblically, is also a sin.)
With all this said, we as the Church and body of Christ have no business judging those who are outside. I don’t pass judgement on someone’s sexual orientation or sexual activity anymore than I judge someone who’s blind. However, if someone claims to be a Christian and claims to have Jesus as their Lord – then I think it prudential to observe if it is so by the Biblical definition as instructed.
You have people who profess supposedly to be Christian being even more carnal than the world which as the apostle Paul said is a shame. (And I suppose it’s no surprise to see the same occurrence even today as the Bible says in Ecclesiastes that what has been is what will be.)